[cat's eye jack]

i read that the phantom conquerors that have a V in them become victory conquerors. is this 5/8" marble one of them? thanks, jack

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[Steph]

I am not familiar with the name "Victory Conqueror".

I know what a Victory is, but that's a different marble. The "plain" Victory is the one with a single patch and a transparent interior.

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Steph, on 01 November 2009 - 09:54 PM, said:

I am not familiar with the name "Victory Conqueror".

I know what a Victory is, but that's a different marble. The "plain" Victory is the one with a single patch and a transparent interior.

hi steph, i got that terminology on alans site under vitro marbles. thanks, jack

[Steph]

I looked up an old copy of Alan's page and didn't find "Victory Conqueror".

Are you thinking of the "Veteran Conqueror" name which he proposed for an off-white Conqueror variant?

[marblemansion]

from what I understand the Victory is like a Phantom Conqueror only it has a clear base. It has nothing to do with the "V" pattern on them - those just make them way cool.... but having a "V" pattern would almost eliminate it from being a Victory.

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marblemansion, on 02 November 2009 - 12:30 AM, said:

from what I understand the Victory is like a Phantom Conqueror only it has a clear base. It has nothing to do with the "V" pattern on them - those just make them way cool.... but having a "V" pattern would almost eliminate it from being a Victory.

sorry again, i meant to say veteran

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Steph, on 02 November 2009 - 12:02 AM, said:

I looked up an old copy of Alan's page and didn't find "Victory Conqueror".

Are you thinking of the "Veteran Conqueror" name which he proposed for an off-white Conqueror variant?

sorry, i meant to say veteran

[Steph]

Okie dokie. Now we're getting somewhere. Then I'll have to vote no on the Veteran Conqueror.

Here's the version I'm reading of Alan's description of Veteran Conquerors:

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Finally, another variation of the Conqueror, which as yet has not been named but could be labeled the "veteran conqueror," has a dull patch as opposed to bright and brushed off-white as opposed to white. On these, the patch seems to often be shaped like a large "V." Victories and conquerors were distributed, as their names might imply, around the period of World War II.

So the 'veteran conqueror' is not a phantom conqueror type. The 'white' is still brushed, not filamented. But the white isn't purely white.


Also note where he says the type "has not been named but could be labeled ...". He's making a suggestion. I asked on the board about this name once and was given the impression that it never caught on. I don't know if Alan himself still uses it.

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Steph, on 02 November 2009 - 11:22 AM, said:

Okie dokie. Now we're getting somewhere. Then I'll have to vote no on the Veteran Conqueror.

Here's the version I'm reading of Alan's description of Veteran Conquerors:

So the 'veteran conqueror' is not a phantom conqueror type. The 'white' is still brushed, not filamented. But the white isn't purely white.


Also note where he says the type "has not been named but could be labeled ...". He's making a suggestion. I asked on the board about this name once and was given the impression that it never caught on. I don't know if Alan himself still uses it.

hi steph, thank for the valued info. was wondering, were there 2 marble connections lou's and alan's? thanks, jack

[Steph]

Lou took the board over from Alan. many years ago.

(if I understand correctly)